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From:LaszczychJ@state.gov To: mbarretta@clintonfoundation.org, ssyed@americanprogress.org, john.podesta@gmail.com, blindsey@clintonfoundation.org Date: 2012-01-19 16:52 Subject: RE: Call with Laura and Cheryl.
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On Cheryl's calendar Joanne -----Original Message-----
From: Michelle Barretta [mailto:mbarretta@clintonfoundation.org]
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 1:51 PM
To: ssyed@americanprogress.org; john.podesta@gmail.com; Bruce Lindsey Cc: Ana Maria Coronel; Laura Graham; Laszczych, Joanne Subject: Re: Call with Laura and Cheryl.
All This call will be Monday at 2pm ET. Please dial in 866-652-0222. Pass code 395-955-2195.
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Sent: Thu Jan 19 12:33:19 2012
Subject: RE: Call with Laura and Cheryl. 2 pm ET works for John.
Thanks, Seher Seher Syed Center for American Progress 1333 H Street N.W.,10th Floor Washington, D.C. 20005 Tel: 202-682-1611 ssyed@americanprogress.org
-----Original Message----- From: Michelle Barretta [mailto:mbarretta@clintonfoundation.org] Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 12:32 PM To: john.podesta@gmail.com; Bruce Lindsey; Seher Syed Cc: Ana Maria Coronel; Laura Graham; LaszczychJ@state.gov Subject: Re: Call with Laura and Cheryl. Apologies, adding John's assistant.
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Sent: Thu Jan 19 12:22:01 2012 Subject: Call with Laura and Cheryl. Hi Trying to set this call up for Monday. So far the best times are at 2 or 230pm ET. Will either of these times work for you?
Q Okay. Are you familiar with FOIA? 11:35:23
3 A Yes. 11:35:25
4 Q Okay. And during your tenure at the State 11:35:25
5 Department, were you aware that federal records 11:35:29
6 belonged to the agency? 11:35:32
11 A Yes. 11:35:43
12 Q Okay. And during your tenure at the State 11:35:43
13 Department, were you aware of your obligation not to 11:35:50
14 delete federal records or destroy federal records?
A The e-mails on my State Department system 11:37:03
19 existed on my computer, and I -- I didn't have a 11:37:07
20 practice of managing my mailbox other than leaving 11:37:11
21 what was in there sitting in there. 11:37:15
22 So for my BlackBerry, if I exceeded the --
the limit, I think it -- it auto deleted. But, no, 11:37:21
2 I didn't -- it wasn't my -- I didn't -- I didn't 11:37:25
3 have a -- I didn't go into my e-mails and -- and 11:37:28
4 delete State.gov e-mails. They just lived on my 11:37:35
5 computer. 11:37:38
6 Q Okay. The question is not just limited to 11:37:38
7 State.gov e-mails; it's in connection to all of your 11:37:42
8 e-mails for State Department business. 11:37:46
9 A That was my practice for all my e-mail 11:37:50
10 accounts. I -- I -- I didn't -- I didn't have a 11:37:52
11 particular form of organizing them. I had a few 11:37:57
12 folders, but they were not deleted. They all stayed 11:38:00
13 in whatever device I was using at the time or 11:38:03
14 whatever desktop I was on at the time. 11:38:06
15 Q Okay. When -- to clarify for the record, 11:38:08
16 when you say you had a few folders set up -- 11:38:11
17 A Yeah. 11:38:14
18 Q -- is that on your e-mail account, or are 11:38:14
19 these physical folders that you had set up? 11:38:16
A It would have been folders on my Outlook 11:38:23
2 account on the -- on the -- my State Department 11:38:26
3 computer. 11:38:28
4 Q Okay. Could you access your 11:38:28
5 Clintonemail.com e-mail on your desktop at the State 11:38:31
6 Department? 11:38:34
7 A Yes. 11:38:34
8 Q And did you access your Clinton e-mail -- 11:38:34
9 A Yes. 11:38:37
10 Q -- dot com? 11:38:37
11 A Yes, I did. 11:38:40
12 Q Did you do that for State Department 11:38:40
13 business? 11:38:45
14 MR. BRILLE: Objection to form. 11:38:46
15 A I did that when I was working or 11:38:47
16 responding to e-mails that came in. I couldn't 11:38:52
17 check my Clinton BlackBerry, so it was the only -- I 11:38:54
18 didn't have access to my Clinton e-mail BlackBerry 11:38:56
19 when I was in the office, so it was the only way I 11:38:58
20 could check my Clinton e-mails. 11:39:01
21 Q How did you access your Clintonemail.com 11:39:03
22 account off your desktop? 11:39
A It was just a -- it was a fairly simple 11:39:13
2 login system. It was through a web browser. 11:39:16
3 Q Okay. Was it connected to your Outlook? 11:39:19
4 A No. No. 11:39:22
5 Q Okay. 11:39:23
6 A It was just Safari or ... 11:39:23
7 Q Okay. During your tenure at the State 11:39:26
8 Department, were you aware of your obligations to 11:39:34
9 search your e-mails for State-related business under 11:39:37
10 FOIA? 11:39:45
11 MS. WOLVERTON: Objection. Calls for a 11:39:46
12 legal conclusion, lack of foundation. 11:39:47
13 MR. BRILLE: Objection. Lack of 11:39:49
14 foundation. 11:39:50
15 A It -- it was never any -- it was never a 11:39:52
16 matter that was raised with me. I was never asked 11:39:55
17 to search my e-mails for anything related to FOIA 11:39:57
18 when I was at State, that I ... 11:39:59
19 Q Okay. I guess that's my question. Did 11:40:02
20 you ever search your State.gov account for any 11:40:10
21 e-mails in response to a FOIA request or litigation? 11:40:13
22 A No, I did not. 11:40
Did you ever search your Clintonemail.com 11:40:39
13 account for -- in response to a FOIA request or FOIA 11:40:43
14 litigation during your tenure at the State 11:40:48
15 Department? 11:40:52
16 A No, I did not. 11:40:52
17 Q Okay. Were you ever asked to search your 11:40:53
18 Clintonemail.com account during your tenure at the 11:40:56
19 State Department in response to a FOIA request or 11:41:02
20 FOIA litigation? 11:41:05
21 A No, I was not. 11:41:06
22 Q Okay. Do you know if anybody else
searched your account for you -- this is your 11:41:13
2 State.gov account -- in response to a FOIA request 11:41:17
3 or FOIA litigation during your tenure there? 11:41:20
4 A Not that I'm aware of. 11:41:23
5 Q Okay. Are you aware if anybody else 11:41:23
6 searched your Clintonemail.com account during your 11:41:29
7 tenure at the State Department in response to a FOIA 11:41:32
8 request or FOIA litigation? 11:41:34
9 A Not that I'm aware of. 11:41:36
10 Q Are you aware of any FOIA requests that 11:41:37
11 were sent or received to the Secretary's office 11:42:04
12 during your tenure at the State Department? 11:42:07
13 MS. WOLVERTON: Objection. The question 11:42:09
14 extends beyond the scope of the authorized 11:42:10
15 discovery. 11:42:12
16 MR. BRILLE: Same objection. 11:42:15
17 A I don't remember any such instances. 11:42:19
18 Q Do you know how FOIA requests were 11:42:20
19 processed in the Secretary's office during your 11:42:29
20 time -- tenure at the Department of State? 11:42:33
21 A No, I am not aware. 11:42:34
22 Q Did you ever discuss any FOIA requests 11:42:35
with anybody in the Secretary's office during your 11:42:42
2 tenure there? 11:42:45
3 A I don't have any memory of -- of doing so. 11:42:46
4 Q Okay. How about FOIA in general; do you 11:42:49
5 recall any discussions that you may have had either 11:42:53
6 with Cheryl Mills, Secretary Clinton, or anybody 11:42:54
7 else in the Secretary's office, about FOIA? 11:42:57
8 A It wasn't anything that I remember having 11:43:02
9 discussions about. 11:43:04
10 Q And you knew Clarence Finney during -- 11:43:06
11 during your tenure at the State Department. Right? 11:43:15
12 A Yes, I did. 11:43:15
13 Q Okay. And did you ever discuss FOIA with 11:43:16
14 Mr. Finney during your tenure at the State 11:43:18
15 Department? 11:43:20
16 A I don't -- I don't remember any specific 11:43:24
17 conversations with Clarence. I -- I remember 11:43:26
18 briefing with Clarence when he first arrived about 11:43:28
19 the documents that we were able to bring in with us. 11:43:30
20 But I don't remember having a conversation like that 11:43:32
21 with Clarence. 11:43:36
1 Department, did you know that your e-mails relating 11:43:42
2 to State Department business were subject to FOIA? 11:43:48
3 MS. WOLVERTON: Objection. Assumes facts 11:43:52
4 not in evidence, calls for legal conclusion. 11:43:55
5 MR. BRILLE: I'll just say an objection, 11:43:59
6 foundation. 11:44:00
7 You can answer. 11:44:00
8 A Yes. 11:44:01
9 Q Okay. And when you were at the State 11:44:01
10 Department, did you know that your e-mails relating 11:44:09
11 to State Department business on your 11:44:12
12 Clintonemail.com account were also subject to FOIA? 11:44:15
13 MS. WOLVERTON: Objection. Calls for a 11:44:20
14 legal conclusion. 11:44:22
15 MR. BRILLE: Same objection. 11:44:23
16 A I -- yes. 11:44:24
17 Q All right. Did Secretary Clinton know, as 11:44:26
18 far as you're aware, that her e-mails relating to 11:44:32
19 State Department business on her Clintonemail.com 11:44:37
20 account were subject to FOIA? 11:44:41
She Printed Emails out at her house..........
A I used -- I was using my State.gov e-mail 11:45:58
2 for the majority of my State Department business. 11:46:02
3 In many instances it was forwarding a document to be 11:46:05
4 printed, a press clipping, a -- a schedule. So 11:46:08
5 those were all e-mails that were captured in the 11:46:14
6 system. And it was sent to Clinton e-mail. I had 11:46:16
7 forwarded it to Clinton e-mail to print. 11:46:19
8 So I -- my -- my understanding, my 11:46:23
9 practice, from what I -- how I was functioning, I -- 11:46:29
10 I wasn't perfect, but I did the best I could, was 11:46:32
11 putting everything on State.gov. There were 11:46:35
12 documents that were forwarded from State.gov to 11:46:38
13 Clinton e-mail. Those were captured in the system. 11:46:41
14 And so that's -- that is how I operated. And I 11:46:44
15 understood that everything that was on the State.gov 11:46:46
16 system was kept in the system and retained in the 11:46:49
17 system. 11:46:52
18 Q Was the issue about how Secretary 11:46:55
19 Clinton's e-mails could be accessed to respond to 11:46:56
20 FOIA ever discussed by anybody within the 11:47:00
21 Secretary's office? 11:47:04
Q Do you know if Secretary Clinton or anyone 11:47:20
9 on her behalf informed Mr. Finney about -- that she 11:47:30
10 had State Department work-related e-mails on her 11:47:40
11 Clintonemail.com account? 11:47:46
12 MS. WOLVERTON: Objection. Asked and 11:47:48
13 answered. 11:47:49
14 MR. BRILLE: Same objection. 11:47:49
15 A Not that -- not that I'm aware of. 11:47:51
16 Q When you used your Clintonemail.com 11:47:53
17 account for State Department-related business, did 11:48:12
18 you ever print and file the e-mails? 11:48:18
19 A No. I don't believe I did. 11:48:22
20 Q Okay. Did you ever save the e-mails 11:48:24
21 either as a PST or a PDF file? 11:48:28
22 A No, I did not. 11:48:32
A Honestly, I wish I thought about it at the 11:48:43
3 time. As I said, I wasn't perfect. I tried to do 11:48:45
4 all of my work on State.gov. And I do believe I did 11:48:48
5 the majority of my work on State.gov. 11:48:52
6 And many of the instances where I was on 11:48:56
7 Clinton e-mail, it was because I had forwarded 11:48:59
8 something from a State.gov account into Clinton 11:49:02
9 e-mail, and in other instances from my Clinton 11:49:07
10 e-mail I was communicating with somebody who was on 11:49:09
11 a State.gov account, and it was captured through 11:49:11
12 there. 11:49:14
13 I -- I did the best I could to do 11:49:16
14 everything right. I -- it did not occur to me to 11:49:19
15 print and file. 11:49:21
16 Q All right. But it is your testimony that 11:49:22
17 there were times that you communicated with 11:49:30
18 Secretary Clinton where both of you used only the 11:49:31
19 Clintonemail.com accounts for State Department 11:49:34
20 business. Right? 11:49:37
21 MR. BRILLE: Objection. Form. 11:49:38
22 A Yes. There -- 11:49:40
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1 MR. BRILLE: Lack of foundation. 11:49:41
2 A Yes. There were instances where that 11:49:43
3 occurred. 11:49:44
4 Q Okay. With respect to those State 11:49:44
5 Department work-related e-mails on the 11:49:48
6 Clintonemail.com accounts, what did you do, if 11:49:49
7 anything, to preserve those e-mails? 11:49:55
8 A I did -- those -- I did not do anything to 11:50:01
9 preserve those e-mails. 11:50:04
10 But again, many of those e-mails were sent 11:50:05
11 from State.gov. The instances where it was 11:50:07
12 Clintonemail to Clintonemail, there were instances 11:50:10
13 where the content of those e-mails had personal 11:50:14
14 matters in there, and there may have also been State 11:50:18
15 Department matters in there, too. It was a -- a 11:50:21
16 combination. 11:50:24
17 But I did not -- I did not preserve those 11:50:25
18 e-mails. 11:50:28
19 Q As far as you know, if you know, what did 11:50:28
20 Secretary Clinton do to ensure that her work-related 11:50:38
21 e-mails were preserved? 11:50:43
22 A She generally e-mailed people on their 11:50:47
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1 State.gov e-mail accounts, and -- and through that 11:50:49
2 manner, those -- those e-mails were captured in the 11:50:55
3 system. 11:50:58
4 Q Okay. Do you know if any of the 11:50:58
5 Secretary's e-mails relating to State Department 11:51:04
6 business were printed and filed on the Secretary's 11:51:06
7 behalf during your tenure at the State Department? 11:51:12
8 A Not that -- 11:51:16
9 MS. WOLVERTON: Objection. Foundation. 11:51:17
10 MR. BRILLE: Go ahead. You can answer. 11:51:19
11 A Not that I'm aware of. 11:51:20
12 Q Do you know how the Secretary managed her 11:51:22
13 Inbox on her Clintonemail.com account during her 11:51:27
14 tenure at the State Department? 11:51:30
15 A No. 11:51:31
16 Q Do you know if Secretary Clinton deleted 11:51:31
17 any of her work-related e-mails -- 11:51:37
18 MS. WOLVERTON: I'm going to -- 11:51:41
19 Q -- during her tenure at the State 11:51:42
20 Department? 11:51:44
21 MS. WOLVERTON: I'm going to object. 11:51:44
22 MS. COTCA: I would just like to finish 11:51:46
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1 asking the question. Thank you. 11:51:47
2 Q Do you know whether Secretary Clinton ever 11:51:50
3 deleted any of her work-related e-mails on her 11:51:55
4 Clintonemail.com account during her tenure at the 11:51:57
5 State Department? 11:52:01
6 MS. WOLVERTON: I'm going to object to 11:52:01
7 this line of questioning as extending beyond the 11:52:02
8 scope of the authorized discovery. 11:52:04
9 MS. COTCA: It goes to the operation of 11:52:11
10 the Clintonemail.com system. 11:52:12
11 MS. WOLVERTON: It goes to records 11:52:13
12 preservation, which is beyond the scope. 11:52:15
13 MS. COTCA: And operation of the 11:52:17
14 Clintonemail.com system. 11:52:18
15 MS. WOLVERTON: I would disagree. 11:52:19
16 MS. COTCA: Your objection is stated on 11:52:21
17 the record. 11:52:22
18 MR. BRILLE: I'll -- I'll -- same 11:52:24
19 objection. 11:52:27
20 You can answer. 11:52:27
21 A Not that -- not that I'm aware of. 11:52:29
22 Q Are you familiar with tasking forms or 11:52:31
search slips in connection with FOIA requests at the 11:52:55
2 State Department? 11:52:59
3 A I'm not familiar with those terms. 11:53:01
4 Q Okay. How about Form DS 1748; have you 11:53:03
5 ever seen a form like that? 11:53:09
6 A I don't know what that is. 11:53:10
7 Q All right. Did you ever have any 11:53:11
8 knowledge or any involvement in the processing of 11:53:15
9 any FOIA request that came to the State Department 11:53:21
10 during your tenure at the State Department? 11:53:25
11 MR. BRILLE: Objection. Asked and 11:53:27
12 answered. 11:53:28
13 MS. WOLVERTON: Same objection. Also 11:53:29
14 extends beyond the scope of authorized discovery. 11:53:30
15 A I don't remember any such instance. 11:53:35
Q Okay. Do you have knowledge about a FOIA 11:55:08
22 request that was submitted by CREW in December 2012 11:55:25
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1 to the State Department for records relating to 11:55:30
2 Secretary Clinton's e-mails? 11:55:35
3 A Can you -- did you -- did you say CREW? 11:55:36
4 Q Yes. 11:55:38
5 A I -- no, I'm not. I don't know what that 11:55:41
6 is, and I'm not -- I'm not aware. 11:55:43
7 Q It's an organization, a nonprofit 11:55:46
8 organization, that submitted a FOIA request in 11:55:51
9 December 2012 to the State Department for records 11:55:55
10 relating to Secretary Clinton's e-mail accounts and 11:55:58
11 use of those accounts for State Department business. 11:56:02
12 A Yes. 11:56:04
13 Q Do you have any knowledge about that 11:56:04
14 request? 11:56:06
15 A I -- I know about it through media reports 11:56:09
16 in the last year, yes. 11:56:12
17 Q Okay. Do you -- so you -- did you not 11:56:14
18 have any knowledge about it during your tenure at 11:56:17
19 the State Department? 11:56:19
20 A No. 11:56:20
21 Q Okay. And since leaving the State 11:56:20
22 Department, what did you learn about that request? 11:56:23
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1 A Just, as I mentioned, media reports 11:56:28
2 mentioning that there had been a FOIA request sent 11:56:31
3 while -- while she was at State that wasn't received 11:56:36
4 until after she left. I mean, that's the extent of 11:56:40
5 my memory from what I read in the -- in the -- in 11:56:43
6 the news stories. 11:56:45
7 Q All right. Did you -- are you aware of 11:56:46
8 the State Department's OIG report that was issued in 11:56:50
9 January 2016 discussing processing of FOIA during 11:56:54
10 Secretary Clinton's tenure? 11:56:58
11 A I'm -- I'm aware there was a report, yes. 11:57:00
12 Q Okay. Did you review that report at any 11:57:01
13 point? 11:57:05
14 A I have not reviewed that report. 11:57:05
15 Q Okay. Did you discuss it with anybody 11:57:07
16 other than your attorneys? 11:57:09
17 A No. 11:57:10
18 Q So it's fair then that you do not know 11:57:10
19 Cheryl Mills' involvement, State Spokesperson Brock 11:57:20
20 Johnson, Heather Samuelson's involvement with that 11:57:28
21 FOIA request? 11:57:31
Q Okay. Since leaving the State Department, 11:57:56
12 did you learn anything with respect to Cheryl Mills' 11:57:59
13 involvement with processing of the FOIA requests 11:58:02
14 submitted by CREW in December 2012? 11:58:05
15 A No. 11:58:07
16 Q All right. Since leaving the State 11:58:08
17 Department, did you learn anything with respect to 11:58:10
18 Heather Samuelson's involvement in processing that 11:58:12
19 same request? 11:58:15
20 A No. 11:58:16
21 Q All right. Same question with respect to 11:58:17
22 State Spokesman Brock Johnson's involvement with 11:58:21
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1 respect to processing that FOIA request. 11:58:27
2 A No. 11:58:27
3 Q Okay. And the same question with respect 11:58:28
4 to State Department Attorney Josh Dawson and his 11:58:29
5 involvement in processing that FOIA request? 11:58:34
6 MS. WOLVERTON: Objection. Calls for 11:58:36
7 attorney-client, attorney work product information. 11:58:39
8 MS. COTCA: I don't see that at all. But 11:58:44
9 unless you're -- 11:58:47
10 MR. BRILLE: Just -- just in answering the 11:58:47
11 question, to the extent you have knowledge of 11:58:48
12 discussions with lawyers, just don't reveal the 11:58:50
13 discussions. 11:58:52
14 You can answer the question, I think, as 11:58:52
15 she has phrased it. 11:58:54
16 THE WITNESS: Okay. 11:58:56
17 A No. 11:58:56
18 Q Did you ever discuss this FOIA request -- 11:58:57
19 and by this FOIA request: I mean the CREW FOIA 11:59:10
20 request -- with Cheryl Mills? 11:59:13
21 A No. 11:59:15
22 Q How about with Secretary Clinton? 11:59:15
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1 A No. 11:59:17
2 Q Were you contacted -- 11:59:17
3 MS. COTCA: I'm sorry. 11:59:22
4 MR. BRILLE: I was just going to ask when 11:59:23
5 you were getting to a breaking point for lunch. I 11:59:25
6 was just going to inquire. 11:59:27
7 MS. COTCA: Sure. I think we can come to 11:59:28
8 a good breaking point in just a couple of minutes. 11:59:30
9 MR. BRILLE: Okay. 11:59:32
10 MS. COTCA: Thank you. 11:59:33
11 BY MS. COTCA: 11:59:33
12 Q Were you contacted by the State 11:59:34
13 Department's OIG office with respect to their 11:59:36
14 investigation for their January 2016 report? 11:59:40
15 MR. BRILLE: Objection. Scope. Is 11:59:44
16 there -- do you want to tell me what the scope is? 11:59:48
17 MS. COTCA: Sure. The investigation deals 11:59:50
18 with FOIA processing during State Department -- 11:59:52
19 during Secretary Clinton's tenure at the State 11:59:54
20 Department and is a completed investigation. So I 11:59:58
21 think it falls entirely within the scope. 12:00:00
22 MR. BRILLE: I'm going to object and 12:00:02
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1 instruct the witness not to answer. 12:00:03
2 I don't think it's in scope. 12:00:05
3 Q Were you contacted by the State 12:00:09
4 Department's OIG office to discuss FOIA processing 12:00:12
5 at the State Department during Secretary Clinton's 12:00:19
6 tenure? 12:00:22
7 MS. WOLVERTON: I'm going to object also 12:00:25
8 as beyond the scope. 12:00:27
9 MR. BRILLE: Same. 12:00:27
10 MS. WOLVERTON: Beyond the scope. 12:00:29
11 MR. BRILLE: Same objection. 12:00:30
12 I'm going to instruct the witness not to 12:00:31
13 answer. 12:00:32
14 Q Okay. In the past -- well, since 12:00:34
15 January -- strike that. 12:00:49
16 Since September of 2015, were you 12:00:54
17 contacted by anybody within the State Department's 12:00:58
18 OIG office to discuss issues relating to FOIA 12:01:01
19 processing in Secretary Clinton's office during her 12:01:07
20 tenure at the State Department? 12:01:10
21 MS. WOLVERTON: Objection. 12:01:12
22 MR. BRILLE: Same objection. 12:01:13
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1 MS. WOLVERTON: Beyond the scope, vague. 12:01:14
2 MS. COTCA: Are you instructing her not to 12:01:17
3 answer? 12:01:18
4 MR. BRILLE: Yes. 12:01:18
5 MS. COTCA: Okay. 12:01:19
6 Q And are you following the advice of your 12:01:20
7 counsel by not answering the question? 12:01:23
8 A Yes. Uh-huh. 12:01:24
18 MS. COTCA: And then we'll come back after 12:01:58
19 lunch. 12:02:00
20 MR. BRILLE: Okay. 12:02:00
21 VIDEO SPECIALIST: We are off the record 12:02:01
22 at 12:02. 12:02:02
VIDEO SPECIALIST: Here begins Tape 3. We 12:58:45
3 are back on the record at 12:58. 12:58:50
4 BY MS. COTCA: 12:58:52
5 Q Welcome back, Ms. Abedin. 12:58:53
6 Your attorney I believe had something to 12:58:57
7 say I believe with respect to a previous 12:58:58
8 instruction. 12:59:00
9 MR. BRILLE: Yes. Thank you. Ms. Cotca, 12:59:00
10 we have -- at the break we've reflected on our prior 12:59:03
11 instruction with respect to the question regarding 12:59:05
12 the OIG report. 12:59:08
13 We're going to maintain the scope 12:59:08
14 objection, but we're going to withdraw the 12:59:10
15 instruction on the question. So to the extent you 12:59:13
16 have questions in that regard, we're going to allow 12:59:15
17 Ms. Abedin to answer. 12:59:17
18 MS. COTCA: Thank you very much. 12:59:18
19 BY MS. COTCA: 12:59:18
20 Q Ms. Abedin, then let's just go back to the 12:59:19
21 questioning about the State Department's OIG's 12:59:22
22 report issued in January of 2016, in connection with 12:59:25
A The Secretary's office was also packed up 13:08:59
22 and the materials that were put in boxes, this was 13:09:03
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1 everything from the books that she had on her 13:09:06
2 bookshelf, to decorations or gifts that she may have 13:09:11
3 received, and paper. All of those items were packed 13:09:15
4 by staff, and those boxes were also not sealed until 13:09:20
5 the protocol office had signed off on the items that 13:09:24
6 were taken. And the same thing with the -- the 13:09:27
7 papers. 13:09:30
8 She may have been in her office when that 13:09:31
9 happened. I have no memory of her -- of her being 13:09:36
10 there herself when we were packing. 13:09:39
11 Q Did the Secretary provide any instructions 13:09:41
12 with respect to what to do with her work -- State 13:09:44
13 Department-related e-mails on her Clintonemail.com 13:09:49
14 prior to leaving the State Department? 13:09:52
15 A Not that I'm aware of. 13:09:54
16 Q Did you ask her for any instructions with 13:09:55
17 respect to what to do with her State-related 13:10:02
18 e-mails? 13:10:06
19 A I don't remember. 13:10:07
20 Q Do you know if anybody did? 13:10:08
21 A I don't. 13:10:11
22 Q Did you at any point during the meeting or 13:10:12
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1 after the meeting inform Mr. Finney about the 13:10:20
2 State-related e-mails on your Clintonemail.com prior 13:10:28
3 to leaving to the State Department? 13:10:32
4 MS. WOLVERTON: Objection. Asked and 13:10:35
5 answered. 13:10:36
6 MR. BRILLE: Yeah. Same objection. 13:10:36
7 A I don't remember talking to Clarence. 13:10:38
8 Q Okay. Do you know if anybody informed 13:10:39
9 Mr. Finney with respect to your State-related 13:10:41
10 e-mails on your Clintonemail.com system in this 13:10:45
11 transition period prior to leaving the State 13:10:49
12 Department? 13:10:54
13 MS. WOLVERTON: Same objection. 13:10:54
14 A I -- I'm not aware. 13:10:56
15 Q Do you know if anybody instructed -- or 13:10:58
16 informed Mr. Finney with respect to State-related 13:11:03
17 e-mails on Secretary Clinton's e-mail account during 13:11:06
18 this transition period prior to leaving the State 13:11:13
19 Department? 13:11:16
20 MS. WOLVERTON: Objection. Asked and 13:11:16
21 answered. 13:11:17
22 A I'm -- I'm not aware. 13:11:21
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1 Q Do you know why nobody informed Mr. Finney 13:11:28
2 about the State-related e-mails on Secretary 13:11:32
3 Clinton's Clintonemail.com account? 13:11:38
4 MS. WOLVERTON: Objection. Assumes facts 13:11:43
5 not in evidence, lack of foundation. 13:11:44
6 MR. BRILLE: Objection. Lacks foundation. 13:11:45
7 A I -- as I think I've mentioned earlier, it 13:11:48
8 is not anything that occurred to us. We all wish we 13:11:52
9 could go back and that not be the case. It did not 13:11:57
10 occur to those of us who were involved. 13:12:00
11 Q And is that the same answer? I'm 13:12:05
12 specifically asking for the time period during the 13:12:07
13 transition process prior to leaving the State 13:12:10
14 Department. 13:12:12
15 A Yes, ma'am. I understand. It did not -- 13:12:13
16 it did not occur to us. 13:12:15
17 Q Was anybody else other than Mr. Finney who 13:12:16
18 participated in the meeting from the Office of the 13:12:29
19 Correspondence and Records? 13:12:32
20 A I remember Clarence. I don't remember -- 13:12:36
21 I don't remember anybody else from his office being 13:12:38
22 there. 13:12:39
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1 Q Do you remember anybody else from any 13:12:40
2 other office being in the meeting? 13:12:44
3 A No, I don't. 13:12:45
4 Q Ms. Abedin, are you familiar with the 13:12:46
5 SMART system that was introduced at the State 13:13:04
6 Department in 2009? And SMART system stands for 13:13:06
7 State messaging and archiving retrieval toolset. 13:13:10
She had no knowlege of this archieve system.................
8 A I -- I don't know what that is. 13:13:15
9 Q Okay. Do you recall any discussions in 13:13:16
10 the State Department about electing to use that 13:13:25
11 system to preserve records in the Secretary's office 13:13:28
12 at all during your tenure at the State Department?
MS. WOLVERTON: Objection. Exceeds the 13:13:35
14 scope of discovery. 13:13:37
15 A I don't. I don't know what that is. 13:13:38
16 Q And you don't recall any discussions 13:13:39
17 about -- about it? 13:13:44
18 MS. WOLVERTON: Same objection. 13:13:45
19 A I -- I don't know. I don't recall any 13:13:46
20 discussions, no. 13:13:47
The 13:40:52
15 Secretary was also taking a short -- a brief 13:40:54
16 vacation with her family at a rental house. 13:40:58
17 And there -- and she was having 13:41:02
18 communications issues, and the department was made 13:41:08
19 aware of it. Cheryl and Steve. 13:41:12
20 Q Okay. When you say "Cheryl," is that 13:41:15
21 Cheryl Mills? 13:41:18
22 A Cheryl Mills and Steve Mull. 13:41:19
http://www.newsmax.com/TomFitton/deposition-email-testimony/2016/06/14/id/733717/
We did take testimony last week from another top aide familiar with Secretary Clinton’s email and BlackBerry: Ambassador Stephen D. Mull, executive secretary of the State Department from June 2010 to October 2012. It was Mull who suggested that Clinton be issued a State Department BlackBerry, which would protect her identity while still being subject to FOIA requests.
In his testimony, Mull said that he doesn’t remember how or when he first learned about the former secretary of state’s use of the BlackBerry. The Daily Caller reported on the deposition under this headline: “State Dept. Official Who Discussed Hillary’s Private Server Now Says He Can’t Remember Anything About It.”
“Do you know how you learned [about Clinton’s server]?” Judicial Watch attorney Michael Bekesha asked Mull.
“I can’t recall, no,” Mulls responded.
“Do you recall when you learned that?” came the follow-up question.
“No. I can’t recall,” said Mull.
That line of questioning about a series of August 30, 2011, emails also caught the attention of U.S. District Court Judge Emmett Sullivan. Judge Sullivan cited the emails in his Memorandum and Order granting Judicial Watch discovery into the Clinton email matter:
"In August 2011 communication difficulties experienced by Secretary Clinton prompted discussion among State Department staff about whether issuing a State Department blackberry might solve the problem . . . Stephen Mull, Executive Secretary of the State Department at the time, noted that if Secretary Clinton used a State issued BlackBerry, her identity 'would be secret' but that the state.gov email account 'would be subject to FOIA requests.' Ms. Abedin responded 'let's discuss the state BlackBerry, doesn't make a whole lot of sense.'"
You may not be shocked to learn that Amb. Mull said he did not recall the circumstances behind the August 2011 email exchange.
Amb. Mull now serves as the State Department’s lead coordinator for Iran nuclear implementation.
We had yet another deposition this past Wednesday. Our attorneys deposed Karin Lang, director of executive secretariat staff and designated representative for the State Department. Lang was designated by the State Department as its 30(b)(6) witness.
A 30(b)(6) witness is assigned to provide the agency’s testimony on the Clinton email issue.
Lang testified that key State Department federal recordkeeping officials did not know that Clinton and her top aide Huma Abedin were using non-state.gov email to conduct government business.
She also testified that the State Department could not say whether Clinton or Abedin has turned over all emails in their possession that may be potentially responsive to Judicial Watch’s Freedom of the Information Act (FOIA) request.
Lang also said that it would not be reasonable to search all 70,000 State Department email accounts in order to retrieve Clinton’s emails. (Clinton has suggested that the State Department would have many of her emails because she sent most of them to State Department employees on their government accounts.)
Lang also testified that a picture of Mrs. Clinton using a Blackberry spurred a State official to ask again if she was using non-state.gov account. Again, he was told “no.” Lang signed, under the penalty of perjury, State Department answers to Judicial Watch’s written interrogatories about the Clinton email system and FOIA.
The State Department acknowledged in its answers that it “has no method of identifying which State Department officials and employees had and/or used an account on clintonemail.com to conduct official government business.”
Amb. Mull and Ms. Lang are among seven depositions of former Clinton top aides and State Department officials that Judicial Watch has scheduled over the next three weeks.
Huma Abedin is scheduled to testify on June 28, and top State Department official Patrick Kennedy on June 29.
And we hope the Court will allow us to bring Mr. Pagliano, the Clinton supposed go-to IT expert on her email system, soon (see story above).
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Q Did you ever inform Mr. Mull about 13:47:24
2 Secretary Clinton's e-mail account on the 13:47:47
3 Clintonemail.com server? 13:47:50
4 MR. BRILLE: Objection. Asked and 13:47:52
5 answered. 13:47:54
6 But, go ahead. 13:47:54
7 A I don't remember informing him, but her 13:47:56
8 e-mail account was not -- was not a secret in our -- 13:47:59
9 in the department, and with senior members of the 13:48:04
10 State Department, so. But I don't remember 13:48:08
11 informing him myself, no. 13:48:10
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